Solutions that are both FAST + SIMPLE at the same time

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Solutions that are both FAST + SIMPLE at the same time

Postby Argax on Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:12 pm

Hi all,

In this earlier thread on "Simplest Solutions" you guys have some incredibly genius designs. Now, they are not always fast though ... so this made me think, there must be some sweet balance between speed and simplicity. (I wish the game had a stopwatch/timer to measure how long it takes to reach the goal, and also count the pieces)

In any case, here are a few of my designs that are a combination of simple+fast (I think :) )
(although not as simple as the champion designs in the other thread)

1. Up The Stairs --> http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=888608
2. Mission to mars --> http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=888250
3. Mind the gap --> http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=918609
4. Around the Bend --> http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=887483
5. Reach Up --> http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=886742
6. Higher --> http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=911841
7. JunkYard --> http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=885717
8. U-Turn --> http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=881911
9. Big Ball --> http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=905318
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Re: Fastest simple solutions

Postby SuperSheep on Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:21 pm

I posted this elsewhere under SuperSheepie (didn't log in) and I'd like to repost here for fastest and simplest

Higher...http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=908191

and...

Tube...http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=574468
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Re: Fastest simple solutions

Postby Argax on Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:25 pm

SuperSheep wrote:I posted this elsewhere under SuperSheepie (didn't log in) and I'd like to repost here for fastest and simplest

Higher...http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=908191


Good one !!! ... just as fast (or faster) and even simpler.
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Re: Fastest simple solutions

Postby SuperSheep on Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:26 pm

Thanks, you have no idea how long that took. :D
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Re: Fastest simple solutions

Postby jaioxung on Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:59 pm

The absolute simplest solution for Around the Bend. No wheels, no rods.

http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=917243
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Re: Fastest simple solutions

Postby Argax on Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:18 pm

jaioxung wrote:The absolute simplest solution for Around the Bend. No wheels, no rods.

http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=917243


It is simple. Yes. ... but it is not fast ;-)

Right now the search is for both simple AND fast at the same time.
(I think there is a thread for "Fastest" and there is a thread for "Simplest" ... but I haven't seen a thread for both combined :) )
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Re: Solutions that are both FAST + SIMPLE at the same time

Postby Diggoran6 on Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:34 pm

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Re: Solutions that are both FAST + SIMPLE at the same time

Postby SuperSheep on Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:07 pm

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Re: Solutions that are both FAST + SIMPLE at the same time

Postby Argax on Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:27 pm

Yup :) Good designs. That's the spirit !
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Re: Solutions that are both FAST + SIMPLE at the same time

Postby Hurkyl on Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:05 am

Around the bend ... too complicated?
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Re: Solutions that are both FAST + SIMPLE at the same time

Postby SuperSheep on Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:59 am

Working on your idea... :)
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=945541

Need a stopwatch but I think yours is a weeee bit faster. :cool:
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Re: Solutions that are both FAST + SIMPLE at the same time

Postby SuperSheep on Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:46 am

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Re: Solutions that are both FAST + SIMPLE at the same time

Postby SuperSheep on Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:42 am

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Re: Solutions that are both FAST + SIMPLE at the same time

Postby Argax on Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:12 am

It is amazing ... the inventiveness and creativity in this game ... how our minds work and so many different, but equivalent, ways of solving a problem !

I've been thinking, the requirement of "Fast+Simple" is kind of vague and we need some sort of tangible way to evaluate it. What do you guys think would be a decent formula ?
-Should we put a cap and say no more than 15 pieces (or some other number) ?
-Should we assign point weights to each piece (like in the Haphazard competition) ?
-Should we Use a formula like: TotalTime+NoOfPieces ? (lowest is better)
-Should we use a formula like: TotalTime+TotalPoints ? (using point weights for each piece)

I am kind of leaning towards the last one ... what do you think ?
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Re: Solutions that are both FAST + SIMPLE at the same time

Postby SuperSheep on Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:21 am

I agree that some method for calculating score is in order. I like the last as it is comprehensive.

The only problem is the actual timing of it all. How I wish there was a stopwatch in the game! :)
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Re: Solutions that are both FAST + SIMPLE at the same time

Postby Jts5513 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:38 pm

check out my 4 balls solution its simple and pretty quick
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=1023420
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Re: Solutions that are both FAST + SIMPLE at the same time

Postby Argax on Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:50 pm

Jts5513 wrote:check out my 4 balls solution its simple and pretty quick
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=1023420


Definitely a winner ! Thanks for posting it :)

SuperSheep wrote:I agree that some method for calculating score is in order. I like the last as it is comprehensive.
The only problem is the actual timing of it all. How I wish there was a stopwatch in the game! :)


Sounds good !
We will soon be getting a stopwatch feature ... so this thread will have more meaning at then.
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