A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

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A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby Hero88go on Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:35 pm

I was wondering about this today, and they aren't questions that should give anything away.

Question 1:
Will FCG [Fantastic Contraption: Gold] include the bug where a design runs differently on different processors? [I.E. PC V.S. Mac?]


Question 2:
Will FCG include the black hole glitch?


Question 3:
Is there a piece limit for FCG? If so, what is it?


I mainly want answered Question 1, as it really bugs that heck out of me that if I make an ipecac design it does not work for other players because I use a Mac.


Thanks in advance for/if/ answering these questions :)
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby halfmaster1 on Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:43 pm

I really hope someone posts

[quote=somebody]the answer to #1 is no[/quote]
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby joshuacool on Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:24 pm

halfmaster1 wrote:I really hope someone posts

somebody wrote:the answer to #1 is no

fixed
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby VERYDUMBNAME on Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:02 pm

the answer to #2 is no. weezy already said it wouldn't have the old glitches
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby Dr. Phil on Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:05 am

Yes
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby Hero88go on Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:14 am

Dr. Phil wrote:Yes

Thanks!
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby tmusquiez on Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:36 pm

Triangle statics?
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby ###ww on Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:12 pm

I'd be surprised to see #1 be no. The reasoning for the glitch is that they run the calculations slightly different (or something like that), and I don't see how you could get around that glitch...
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby OfficiallyHaphazard on Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:40 pm

###ww wrote:I'd be surprised to see #1 be no. The reasoning for the glitch is that they run the calculations slightly different (or something like that), and I don't see how you could get around that glitch...


I agree. I think there will always be some very complex contraptions which will function differently. I don't blame it on the game, but on the flash player.
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby Afronanny on Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:59 pm

Very well done hero, this is the right way to gain info about FCG.

As to your questions, seems to me that the black hole glitch is fixed (there most likely will be some replacement) and I've been able to get up to 249 pieces. It's slow at that number, mind you, but it still works.

I think hap addressed #1 quite well.
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby ~Jon~ on Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:10 pm

Afronanny wrote:Very well done hero, this is the right way to gain info about FCG.

As to your questions, seems to me that the black hole glitch is fixed (there most likely will be some replacement) and I've been able to get up to 249 pieces. It's slow at that number, mind you, but it still works.


Nah, that small chain bug allows you to surpass the piece limit. Its actually much less, but still higher than the current FC one.
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby Wafflekins on Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:11 pm

Afronanny wrote: I've been able to get up to 249 pieces. It's slow at that number, mind you, but it still works.


Now there's more room for awesome brown solves! :toot:
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby zhyrek on Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:15 pm

Wafflekins wrote:
Afronanny wrote: I've been able to get up to 249 pieces. It's slow at that number, mind you, but it still works.


Now there's more room for awesome brown solves! :toot:

OH YEA :D
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby Hero88go on Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:58 pm

:toot: Thank you Jon and Afro and Hap!
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby Mr.Lemons on Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:10 pm

FCGML?
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby weasel on Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:53 am

Hero88go wrote:Question 1:
Will FCG [Fantastic Contraption: Gold] include the bug where a design runs differently on different processors? [I.E. PC V.S. Mac?]


Unfortunately it's a product of the processor itself, not the physics engine. We do our best to mitigate it, but it will never completely be fixed until everyone on the planet uses the same brand/model of CPU. :)

Just FYI, it has to do with floating-point-number precision. That is to say, on some processors, 1 divided by 3 is
0.33333333333333333333333333333334
and other processors it's
0.33333333333333333333333333333333

The little difference has a cascading effect throughout all the interactions in the game. The more extreme (large, fast moving, complex, long running) your contraption, the more susceptable it is.

Question 2:
Will FCG include the black hole glitch?


I think that got fixed. :)

Question 3:
Is there a piece limit for FCG? If so, what is it?


Yes, but it's more than the limit on FC.
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby meteoro on Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:36 pm

I hope you dont fix the bomb glitch (or maybe you could add crazy wheels)
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby Hero88go on Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:43 pm

weasel wrote:
Hero88go wrote:Question 1:
Will FCG [Fantastic Contraption: Gold] include the bug where a design runs differently on different processors? [I.E. PC V.S. Mac?]


Unfortunately it's a product of the processor itself, not the physics engine. We do our best to mitigate it, but it will never completely be fixed until everyone on the planet uses the same brand/model of CPU. :)

Just FYI, it has to do with floating-point-number precision. That is to say, on some processors, 1 divided by 3 is
0.33333333333333333333333333333334
and other processors it's
0.33333333333333333333333333333333

The little difference has a cascading effect throughout all the interactions in the game. The more extreme (large, fast moving, complex, long running) your contraption, the more susceptable it is.

Question 2:
Will FCG include the black hole glitch?


I think that got fixed. :)

Question 3:
Is there a piece limit for FCG? If so, what is it?


Yes, but it's more than the limit on FC.

Thanks for adding some more details, Mr.Weasel.

I really appreciate the time :)
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby i need a user on Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:33 pm

Mr.weasel, is it true you are squrl?
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Re: A couple inqueries about Fantastic Contraption: Gold

Postby squrl on Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:59 pm

;) :lol:
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