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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby BoredDude2 on Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:59 am

You teach English? I geuss this marks the end of "Those who can't do, teach".
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby Jyo on Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:06 pm

Dr. Phil wrote:As an English teacher, these topics make me proud. :)


You just implied that 'these topics' is 'an English teacher.'

I think you meant something along the lines of "As an English teacher, I am proud of these topics."
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby rianbay812 on Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:12 pm

Jyo wrote:
Dr. Phil wrote:As an English teacher, these topics make me proud. :)


Yoo jus implied that 'these topics' iz 'an English teacher.' lolz

I think yoo meant something along the lines of "As an English teacher, I am furr one proud of these topicz lolz."

It's weird seeing you type normally. I made some corrections for you. :)
You're welcome, robo.
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby robotmafia on Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:42 pm

Jyo wrote:
Dr. Phil wrote:As an English teacher, these topics make me proud. :)


You just implied that 'these topics' is 'an English teacher.'

I think you meant something along the lines of "As an English teacher, I am proud of these topics."


Yeah Jyo, why can't you type like you have some sense (as you did in this post) more often? And I do believe that Dr. Phil's post was, in fact, grammatically correct. Though what you said was correct (besides the comma or colon you forgot after the word "of"), Dr. Phil's post was acceptable as well.
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby Jyo on Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:52 pm

That was quite the impression, Brian; splitting image, really.

Wait; does it really bother you guys that I type weird - or are you saying that for the sake of this thread?
I suppose I could type normally if popular demand so requires it...
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby robotmafia on Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:54 pm

No, it really bothers me. It also bothers a few other people in the chat, but I won't say any names. Seriously, just read some of your posts and ask yourself, "Why do I do this?" Also, I was drunk and raged on you in the "Rate the Design Above You" thread (or whatever its name is). Even though I was drunk and it was a little meaner than I intended, it still gets my point across.
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby ID36 on Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:32 pm

Jyo wrote:
Dr. Phil wrote:As an English teacher, these topics make me proud. :)


You just implied that 'these topics' is 'an English teacher.'

I think you meant something along the lines of "As an English teacher, I am proud of these topics."
You're right.
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby Jyo on Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:36 pm

I'm sorry to hear that.
My philosophy is if you can extract from the words I put on the page the message I'm trying to get across, then spelling's but a medium.
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby Kai Laddiman on Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:58 am

Jyo wrote:My philosophy is if you can extract from the words I put on the page the message I'm trying to get across, then spelling's but a medium.


I argee wtih tihs psot.
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby BoredDude2 on Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:30 pm

Popular Demand wrote:I require that Jyo types normally.
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby Kai Laddiman on Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:33 pm

Actually, Popular Demand wrote:BoredDude2 needs to stop talking about dead topics.

And he needs to sort his grammar out.

And his humour.
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby robotmafia on Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:05 pm

Jyo wrote:I'm sorry to hear that.
My philosophy is if you can extract from the words I put on the page the message I'm trying to get across, then spelling's but a medium.


And that's fine, I'm no grammar Nazi; I was merely expressing my opinion on the matter.
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby rianbay812 on Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:08 pm

Did someone call the GRAMMAR POLICE?!?!?!
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby Kai Laddiman on Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:19 pm

rianbay812 wrote:Did someone call the GRAMMAR POLICE?!?!?!

robotmafia wrote:grammar Nazi


Nope.
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby robotmafia on Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:26 pm

Hey Kai! You never talk to me in the chat anymore. ):
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby Dr. Phil on Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:10 pm

Jyo wrote:
Dr. Phil wrote:As an English teacher, these topics make me proud. :)


You just implied that 'these topics' is 'an English teacher.'

I think you meant something along the lines of "As an English teacher, I am proud of these topics."



Actually, Jyo, "As an English teacher" acts as an interjection to the independent clause "these topics make me proud." A comma is what's necessary to separate the dependent clause and the independent clause. The dependent clause, like all dependent clauses, just serves to provide the reader with more information than they need.


Generally, there is more than one correct way to construct a sentence while still conveying all the information.
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby Jyo on Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:25 pm

Dr. Phil wrote:Actually, Jyo, "As an English teacher" acts as an interjection to the independent clause "these topics make me proud." A comma is what's necessary to separate the dependent clause and the independent clause. The dependent clause, like all dependent clauses, just serves to provide the reader with more information than they need.


Generally, there is more than one correct way to construct a sentence while still conveying all the information.


Thanks for that mini-grammar lesson, Dr. Phil.
I thought "As an English teacher" acted as a modifier, in which case there is nothing (or rather, no one) to modify.
It seems I've been proven wrong. :]
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby BoredDude2 on Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:01 am

rianbay812 wrote:Did someone call the GRAMMAR POLICE?!?!?!

I've already seen that.
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby ID36 on Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:29 am

Dr. Phil, you need to read up on Participle clauses with adverbial meaning

"As an English teacher" here means In the role of... which is a shortened way of saying "Working as an English teacher."

(i) As an English teacher, these topics make me proud. (not OK)
(ii) Working as an English teacher, these topics make me proud. (not OK)

The implied subject of a clause is usually the same as the subject of the main clause. Let's look at the following:

"Being a doctor, my brother makes me proud."

Who is the doctor here? Hopefully you answered my brother. So, as Jyo pointed out, your sentence would be better written:

As an English teacher, I'm proud of these topics. (OK)
Working as an English teacher, I'm proud of these topics. (OK)
Being an English teacher, I'm proud of these topics. (OK)

In addition to these, you can also say "As I'm an English teacher, these topics make me proud." But here you would be using as to mean since.
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Re: Perfect Grammar

Postby Dr. Phil on Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:41 am

That is all well and good, but you must look at this as it is written in a forum, from my avatar, which represents me as a person. So when I say "As an English teacher" it is referencing me as a person. And when I say "these topics make me proud" that the topics are making me proud. There is also a level of colloquialism with how I wrote. If we all spoke and typed with absolutely rigidly perfect grammar all the time we would all sound like complete tools. Just saying.

And if we took your sentence and placed it in a context (much like mine was) it changes the meaning. Let's say there is a brother who is a doctor whose younger brother just graduated from medical school to become a radiologist. They are at his graduation and the first brother says: "As a doctor, my brother makes me proud." Based on the inflection of how the brother spoke to whom he was speaking would know that he was the doctor and his brother had only made him proud.
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